Tony Feghali sits down with longtime friend and yogi Eugénie “Gino” Kadid Sayegh for an honest and spirited conversation about love in business. From Mandela’s humble strength to Elon Musk’s controversial drive, they unpack what it truly means to lead with heart or without it.

Drawing on Gino’s deep connection to energy, prayer, and people, they explore the role of ego, faith, forgiveness, and confidence in shaping the leaders we follow and admire. What makes someone worth following? And can success without love ever be enough?

From laughter to reflection, this episode is a reminder that the best leaders don’t just build companies, they lift people.